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This is for the admins and site developer and such.
I read the "anti-cheating" way and I have to say... It's pretty bad.
Do you know what "NAT" is?
NAT stands for Network Address Translation.
It means many people using the same IP address to access the internet.
Why do you think IPv.6 is being implemented?
Because we ran out of IPv4 Addresses many years ago.
Do you guys think you have an unique IP address? No you dont. What dynamically changes is your port number, but you and other 1,000 person could have the same IP address and be browsing @ this moment.
We ran out of IP addresses many years ago and thats why NAT, PAT and other things were implemented. And thats what keeps us going until a new protocol is implemented.
Do you think ISP(internet service providers) have unlimited IP addresses to give away? No they dont. They buy blocks of IP and just give them around.
They could have 1,000 IP addresses and have 50,000 clients.
And there could be 1,000 using the same IP.
When you are @ home the IP address you see when you type ipconfig/all in ur comand & prompt is a private IP address. Is meant for "lan" environment. You cant go outside(internet) with that address. What happens is that you borrow an IP address + source port # from your ISP and you browse with the IP address of your ISP.
So you may want to verify that system you use to call other cheaters. Because world doesnt work like that anymore.
Source: Me - I'm a CCNA and Network+ engineer.
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01-05-2010, 06:23 AM
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Hmm.. My friends friend had 4 registered accounts on hes computer and he got banned.. Idk did he use fake emails or not, but thing is.. How did they know he cheated (even if he didn't) ? Coz if u make example 3 accounts on your computer and use them urself and put ur mother's/father's etc. name, they can figure out that I cheat? Or can they?
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01-05-2010, 06:48 AM
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mhh no.
they see the same IP so he got banned... every person can only have one account on lockerz not more.
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01-05-2010, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kurosaki00 This is for the admins and site developer and such.
I read the "anti-cheating" way and I have to say... It's pretty bad.
Do you know what "NAT" is?
NAT stands for Network Address Translation.
It means many people using the same IP address to access the internet.
Why do you think IPv.6 is being implemented?
Because we ran out of IPv4 Addresses many years ago.
Do you guys think you have an unique IP address? No you dont. What dynamically changes is your port number, but you and other 1,000 person could have the same IP address and be browsing @ this moment.
We ran out of IP addresses many years ago and thats why NAT, PAT and other things were implemented. And thats what keeps us going until a new protocol is implemented.
Do you think ISP(internet service providers) have unlimited IP addresses to give away? No they dont. They buy blocks of IP and just give them around.
They could have 1,000 IP addresses and have 50,000 clients.
And there could be 1,000 using the same IP.
When you are @ home the IP address you see when you type ipconfig/all in ur comand & prompt is a private IP address. Is meant for "lan" environment. You cant go outside(internet) with that address. What happens is that you borrow an IP address + source port # from your ISP and you browse with the IP address of your ISP.
So you may want to verify that system you use to call other cheaters. Because world doesnt work like that anymore.
Source: Me - I'm a CCNA and Network+ engineer. | aha, so me and a lot of other people using my service provider could have the same ip. thanks for the info
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01-05-2010, 09:53 PM
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hmm, is there a confession about this cheating thingy..? i mean let's say i cheated can they just remove the points i've got in cheating?
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01-06-2010, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Never Winter hmm, is there a confession about this cheating thingy..? i mean let's say i cheated can they just remove the points i've got in cheating? | There is.. And if they find out cheating after u have redeemed something, they remove ALL your ptz..
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01-06-2010, 01:24 PM
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the only way Lockerz will not find out about your invites is by changing your IP address for every invite. its pretty easy to do but i still wouldnt do it.
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01-06-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jac7b aha, so me and a lot of other people using my service provider could have the same ip. thanks for the info | Yes
For example
you telling your friends about lockerz
and they live in the same area as you and have the same ISP as you.
The probabilities of them actually going online using the same IP you use are quite high.
The only thing networking talking we have "unique" hardcoded in our pc's are our Mac addresses.
Unique IP addresses died in like the 90's.
There are around four billion IP addresses in IPv4.
There are around 2 billions of internet users in the world.
By internet users I mean people who access the internet.
Now printers use ip addresses, servers, hosts, domains, databases, routers, switches etc etc
Do you know that when you type Google behind stages actually a DNS system pops up and translates the friendly google.com letters into an IP address?
YES it means websites have IP addreses too!
Now add up that!
We have gone over our IP addresses by the billions!
Yes people cheat, but using a cheating/broken anti-cheat system is not honest at all!
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01-08-2010, 02:29 PM
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So are you telling us they call us cheaters with our MAC addresses... can they even see that?
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01-08-2010, 08:26 PM
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no im not saying that. Im just stating that mac addresses are unique.
They say they use IP, which is BS for the reasons ive stated in my last 2 posts in this thread.
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01-14-2010, 06:44 AM
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Hmm. Intresting but fact. I am using Cable net of almost 100 users with same static iP. So how Lockerz treat with us? They consider all of 100 people in same family and consider it a cheating?
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01-18-2010, 09:14 AM
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If you rally MUST invite yourself, maybe for the last few points you need for your next goal, just use a proxy, it is near impossible to get caught.
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01-18-2010, 09:38 AM
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You can invite yourself several times, mine friend did it 40 times, and didn't get a "You cheated mail".
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01-18-2010, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by martijn1 You can invite yourself several times, mine friend did it 40 times, and didn't get a "You cheated mail". | He is one of the lucky few.
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01-20-2010, 04:45 PM
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yo im not scared i made myself a zlister proud of it 
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01-22-2010, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gathsocky yo im not scared i made myself a zlister proud of it 
and i don't care if they caught me  | Well, it was a whole lot of wasted time creating all those fake emails if they catch you, wich I hope they will... I really don't understand why people cheat, if they'd put the efford they put into creating fake emails into actually trying to advertise, they would get their Z-List status in no time. Maybe not as fast as they would with cheating but still fast enough...
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01-22-2010, 02:16 PM
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01-22-2010, 07:25 PM
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i have 60 accounts from my ip address... im screwed.
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01-23-2010, 08:07 AM
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I have confessed but I still have my friends. I wonder if it's a 2nd chance...
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01-24-2010, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by kurosaki00 no im not saying that. Im just stating that mac addresses are unique.
They say they use IP, which is BS for the reasons ive stated in my last 2 posts in this thread. | lol mac adress can be easy changed without any programm
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